Ron Paul was the patriot in the line of fire as the Fox News Neo-cons pushed the surge of the attack phase toward Paul’s candidacy. But the blowback has already begun as the Fox Debate is being called the ‘worst debate ever’ and as obvious establishment propaganda.

After the first question from Mike Wallace about the economy (see transcript below) all the questions were maligned in a designed attempt to smear Ron Paul. But the gloves came off as Dr. Paul’s batted every loaded question over the moderator heads and out of the ballpark.

Speaking truth to power, Paul stood alone with talk of a recession and the real estate market being in a depression. Paul spoke about monetary policy as the cause of the recession. The audience was also very receptive to Paul’s views and applauded often, including on foreign policy issues, which seemed to surprise the moderators.

Moderator, Carl Cameron, addressed Dr. Paul with arrogance and asked “another question about electability, do you have any? . . .your differences with the rest of the Republicans on this stage have raised questions about whether or not you can win the general Republican nomination sir.

If the Faux moderators were truly paying attention to this election without any agendas, they would know that Ron Paul has more delegates than Giuliani or Hunter and more total votes from Iowa and New Hampshire than Giuliani, Hunter, and Thompson! And from whom did all that money come from?!

Who should they really question about electability? The juvenile snickering Mr. 911 and the half ‘dead’ Fred actor, for starters.

Paul responded with integrity though to expose Fox News as disrespectful, disingenuous and neo-con war mongering globalists.

CAMERON: Congressman Paul, yet another question about electability. Do you have any, sir? There’s always the question as to whether or not…

(LAUGHTER and BEMOANING)… you are, in fact, viable. Your differences with the Republicans on the — with the rest of the Republicans on this stage has raised questions about whether or not you can actually win the Republican nomination, sir.

PAUL: Well, we’ve only had two little primaries so far. So it’s pretty premature to decide which one is going to be the candidate.

But, you know, when you think about it, if you measured everything I’ve ever said, every vote I’ve ever taken against the Constitution, you know, I’m a strict constitutionalist.

Are you suggesting the Republicans should write me off because I’m a strict constitutionalist? I’m the most conservative member here. I have voted, you know, against more spending and waste in government than anybody else.
(APPLAUSE)
So you’re suggesting that I’m not electable and the Republicans don’t want me because I’m a strict fiscal conservative, because I believe in civil liberties? Why should we not be defending civil liberties and why should we not be talking about foreign policy that used to be the part of the Republican Party?
Mr. Republican Robert Taft didn’t even want us to be in NATO and you’re saying now that we have to continue to borrow money from China to finance this empire that we can’t afford?
Let me see if I get this right. We need to borrow $10 billion from China, and then we give it to Mushar-raf, who is a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government. And then we go to war, we lose all these lives promoting democracy in Iraq. I mean, what’s going on here?

(APPLAUSE)

And you’re saying that this isn’t appealing to Republicans? Where did this come about? I think this is the Republican message. I defend the platform. It used to say we’d (inaudible) the Department of Education. It doesn’t say that now.

We, as Republicans, went and doubled the size of the Department of Education, so where have we gone? I think we’ve lost our way. And then the insinuation that I am less Republican because of that?

HUME: Congressman, thank you very much.

We have to take one more break. We’ll be right back, with one of the most contentious issues of the day. Stay tuned.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
When Fox ambushed Ron Paul with the ‘9/11 Truthers’ question, he stifled the attempt at smear and the crowd applauded Ron’s attempt to join the real debate:

CAMERON: Congressman Paul, many of your supporters call themselves 9/11 Truthers. They believe that the U.S. government was in some way complicit with the 9/11 attacks or covered it up. Are you tonight prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it, or divorce themselves from your candidacy?

PAUL: Well, I can’t tell people what to do, but I’ve abandoned those viewpoints. I don’t believe that, and that’s the only thing that is important. And so I don’t endorse anything they say. But I would like to take an opportunity to talk about the issue that we’ve been debating here for the last 20 minutes…

CAMERON: Sir, would you ask them to cease that rhetoric tonight on your behalf?

PAUL: Well, it doesn’t do me any good, so if they care about me, they should. But the only thing I have control over is what I believe and what I say. I can’t tell them what to do. So I don’t endorse what they say and I don’t believe that, so, please, could I participate in the current debate rather than picking this out.

Romney also joined in the chicanery with a crack that Paul should stop reading Iranian propaganda, drawing boos from the audience and a glare from Paul.

After the debate, Fox, in continuing it’s disgraceful and unethical, unfair and unbalanced yellow-journalism, denied the American voters again by choosing not to include Dr. Paul in the post-debate interviews with Hannity and Colmes.

The sabotage continued as Frank Luntz, an admitted propagandist caught planting an actor or paid shill named Chuck in two previous focus groups, delivered another zinger of a focus group last night. Strangely, the vast majority of his group agreed that Fred Thompson won the debate. But the focus group results differed greatly from the rest of America when considering the text message polling. When the public was asked who won the debate, Dr. Paul won handily by double-digits with over 30% of the vote. (Fox Says Fred Thompson Wins Debate, America Says Ron Paul Does).

Then, in the 2nd re-airing of the debate, Fox again in a great disservice to the public, did not re-air the portion of Ron Paul’s remarks on whether or not he is electable. Fox Debate Was Establishment Propaganda and 16 minutes Fox news didn’t air on the debate replay

Here is the full recap of the questions posed to and answers from Ron Paul:

WALLACE: Congressman Paul, do you support a government program to stimulate the economy?

PAUL: Well, a government program is too vague. What kind of a government program?

If it’s appropriating money and trying to stimulate that way and spend more money, no, that would be the wrong thing to do. But a government program of a — of a reduced tax burden, yes, that would be.

Also, to solve this problem, you have to understand why we’re in a recession. I believe we’re in a recession. I think it’s going to get a lot worse if we continue to do the wrong things that we’ve done in the past, that it’s going to be delayed, just as what happened in the Depression.

But you have to understand that over-stimulation in an economy by artificially low interest rates by the Federal Reserve is the source of the recession.

The recession has been predictable. We just don’t know exactly when it will come.

If you do the wrong thing, it’s going to last for a long time. The boom period comes when they just pour out easy credit and it teaches people to do the wrong things. There’s a lot of malinvestment, debt that goes in the wrong direction, consumers who do the wrong things, and businessmen who do the wrong thing.

So we have to attack this and understand the importance of Austrian theory of the business cycle. If you don’t, we’re going to continue to do this and the longer you delay the recession, the worse the recession is, and we’ve delayed a serious recession for a long time.

The housing market’s already in depression and a lot of people are hurt and the standing of living in this country is going down. Look at what’s happening to the dollar.

And what is being offered by the Federal Reserve and Treasury and everybody in Washington? Lower interest rates. Well, lower interest rates is the problem. Artificially low interest rates is the artificial stimulus which causes the bubble, which allows the inevitable recession to come.

So what we need to do is deal with monetary policy and not pretend that artificial stimulus by more spending is going to help. That won’t do you one bit of good.

CAMERON: Congressman Paul, many of your supporters call themselves 9/11 Tuthers. They believe that the U.S. government was in some way complicit with the 9/11 attacks or covered it up.

Are you tonight prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it, or divorce themselves from your candidacy?

PAUL: Well, I can’t tell people what to do, but I’ve abandoned those viewpoints. I don’t believe that, and that’s the only thing that is important. And so I don’t endorse anything they say.

But I would like to take an opportunity to talk about the issue that we’ve been debating here for the last 20 minutes…

CAMERON: Sir, would you ask them to cease that rhetoric tonight on your behalf?

PAUL: Well, it doesn’t do me any good, so if they care about me, they should. But the only thing I have control over is what I believe and what I say. I can’t tell them what to do. So I don’t endorse what they say and I don’t believe that, so, please, could I participate in the current debate rather than picking this out.

(APPLAUSE)

(CROSSTALK)

PAUL: No, I would like to address the subject about whether or not we’ve lost our way and whether there’s a coalition building or whether it’s gone. I think it’s gone. I don’t think we’re fiscal conservatives anymore. Look at what we’ve done over these 10 years. We finally got control of the government and we became big-government people.

Our deficit’s out of control and we no longer are opposed to new entitlements. We are entitlement peo-ple. And then we turn around and we talk about liberty and we’ve undermined the Fourth Amendment and personal liberty and personal privacy. In the year 2000, we won the election by condemning the Democrats for nation-building and policing the world, and now, what are we doing?

We’re policing the world, we’re involved in all of these countries around the world and threatening going into Iran and Pakistan and on and on. At the same time, our economy is suffering to the point where we can’t even finance what we have here today. We have to borrow from the Chinese and the dollar is crashing.

So no wonder our coalition is breaking up. We actually have lost our way. Now, over the years, I’ve never voted to spend one penny of the Social Security fund, because I’m a fiscal conservative. If you want the Social Security system to work, get people who will vote against robbing the Social Security fund.

HUME: Thank you, Congressman Paul. It is time for a break, but when we come back, we’re going to take a look at the Middle East and have some questions about other world hot spots, right after these messages. Stay tuned.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HUME: Congressman Paul, what if this happens again?

PAUL: I would certainly urge a lot more caution than I’m hearing here tonight. It reminds me of what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin. We went to war there, then, later on, found out there was a lot of false information.

So here we have — let’s put it in perspective. We have five small speedboats attacking the U.S. Navy with a Destroyer? They could take care of those speedboats in about five seconds. And here we’re ready to start World War III over this?

And now, guess what, today, the Navy commander of the Fifth Fleet was on ABC and announced that, you know, that voice might not have come from those vessels. So what does that mean?Was there a rush to judgment on this, ready to go to war?

And you know there are people in this administration and in Washington, D.C., that are looking for the chance.They were so disappointed with the national estimate on intelligence. And they were disappointed that there’s no attempt to build weapons in Iran since 2003.

HUME: Congressman…

PAUL: So what — I just don’t see this rush to judgment.

HUME: Well, wait a minute. All of these people I’ve asked this question to so far have said they sup-ported the decision to be passive. What are you responding to?

PAUL: I’m very sorry, I can’t hear a word you said.

(APPLAUSE)

You’ll have to speak up.

HUME: Every one of these — of your fellow candidates have said they supported the commander’s deci-sion to respond passively. I just wonder what you’re reacting to.

PAUL: Well, I didn’t hear that. Of course we want caution. But I’m worrying about the policy of why we’re looking for a justification. Now there are no weapons, actually people are looking around for an excuse to bomb Iran.

I mean, we’re already, with our CIA, being involved in trying to overthrow that government, and we don’t need another war. And this incident should not be thrown out of proportion to the point where we’re getting ready to attack Iran over this.

HUME: Governor Romney, if it happens again?

ROMNEY: I think Congressman Paul should not be reading as many of Ahmadinejad’s press releases. But let’s…

(APPLAUSE)

GOLER: Congressman Paul, can we go back to the Middle East? You have said the United States should not be trying to broker peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. Should the president even be there today, sir?

PAUL: Well, if he followed my advice, yes, we wouldn’t be there. We’ve been doing that for a good many years, and it hasn’t seemed to come to success.

No, I think if we weren’t there, there’d be more incentives to come to a peaceful agreement. But we sup-port both sides. You know, not only with the Palestinians, but the Lebanese and all the Arab nations.

We support Israel, and we try to have this balance. But I think it would be much better to have a balance by being out of there. And I think it would be a greater incentive for Israel and the Palestinians and all the Arab nations to come together and talk because I think we get in the way too often of these. And be-sides, it’s costing us a lot of money and it’s costing us lives now.

And it’s time that we come to the point where we believe the world can solve some of their problems without us.And also, we’re out of money. We can’t do it any longer.

We’re going bankrupt. And the empires of the world have always ended badly through economic terms.

PAUL: So whether there are peace agreements over there, I mean, for instance, if we would stop all aid to over there, we would stop three times as much aid as Israel gets through the Arab nations.

Why do we arm the Arab nations and they’re the enemies of Israel? But we continue to do that. So why don’t we trade with everybody and talk with them, and there’s a greater incentive to work these problems out.

I think if we’d have been out of there a lot sooner, there may well have been a much different settlement after the Kuwait invasion, because Israel was quite capable of working with moderate Arab nations. They tried to. None of the Arab nations wanted Saddam Hussein in Kuwait and I think they could have taken care of Saddam Hussein back then and saved all the mess that we have now, because I think there are so many unintended consequences and way too much blowback.

(APPLAUSE)

GOLER: I thank the gentleman.

ROMNEY: But my final seconds, I’d like to just, with all due respect, Congressman Paul, the issue of whether the president should be in the Middle East comes to something that I think we’ve got to recognize.

We’ve got one true ally in the Middle East, and that’s Israel. It’s a tiny nation. I’ve been there nine time. I’ve literally traveled from Dan to Beersheba, and I understand something of that nation and the vulner-ability of it.

And for us to give the world the impression that we would stand by if it were under attack and simply say, “It’s not our problem,” would be recklessly irresponsible on our part.

And if I were president, you can rest assured that we would not let an ally be annihilated by those ene-mies which is surround it, who have openly stated it is their direct intention to destroy that nation. It would not happen under my presidency.

HUME: Congressman Paul, 30 seconds.

(APPLAUSE)

PAUL: In many ways, we treat Israel as a stepchild. We do not give them responsibility that they de-serve. We undermine their national sovereignty. We don’t let them design their own peace treaties with their neighbors.

And then we turn around and say that, when you want to do that or you want to defend your borders, they have to check it out with us.

I think Israel would be a lot safer. I made the point earlier. We give three times as much money to the Arabs. Why do we arm their enemies? So if you care about Israel, you should be against all the weapons that go to the Arab nations.

(APPLAUSE)

And I just don’t see any purpose in not treating Israel in an adult fashion. I think they’d be a lot better off.

I think they, one time in the ’80s, took care of a nuclear reactor in Iraq. I stood up and defended Israel for this. Nobody else did at that time.

But we need to recognize they deserve their sovereignty, just as we deserve our sovereignty.

PAUL: I believe that if they assumed more responsibility, there would be more peace there and that there would be a lot less threat to us. Besides, we don’t have any money to do this.

(APPLAUSE)

CAMERON: Congressman Paul, yet another question about electability.

Do you have any, sir? There’s always the question as to whether or not…

(LAUGHTER)

… you are, in fact, viable. Your differences with the Republicans on the — with the rest of the Republi-cans on this stage has raised questions about whether or not you can actually win the Republican nomi-nation, sir.

PAUL: Well, we’ve only had two little primaries so far. So it’s pretty premature to decide which one is going to be the candidate.

But, you know, when you think about it, if you measured everything I’ve ever said, every vote I’ve ever taken against the Constitution, you know, I’m a strict constitutionalist.

Are you suggesting the Republicans should write me off because I’m a strict constitutionalist? I’m the most conservative member here. I have voted, you know, against more spending and waste in govern-ment than anybody else.

(APPLAUSE)

So you’re suggesting that I’m not electable and the Republicans don’t want me because I’m a strict fiscal conservative, because I believe in civil liberties? Why should we not be defending civil liberties and why should we not be talking about foreign policy that used to be the part of the Republican Party?

PAUL: Mr. Republican Robert Taft didn’t even want us to be in NATO and you’re saying now that we have to continue to borrow money from China to finance this empire that we can’t afford?

Let me see if I get this right. We need to borrow $10 billion from China, and then we give it to Mushar-raf, who is a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government. And then we go to war, we lose all these lives promoting democracy in Iraq. I mean, what’s going on here?

(APPLAUSE)

And you’re saying that this isn’t appealing to Republicans? Where did this come about? I think this is the Republican message. I defend the platform. It used to say we’d (inaudible) the Department of Education. It doesn’t say that now.

We, as Republicans, went and doubled the size of the Department of Education, so where have we gone? I think we’ve lost our way. And then the insinuation that I am less Republican because of that?

HUME: Congressman, thank you very much.

We have to take one more break. We’ll be right back, with one of the most contentious issues of the day. Stay tuned.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

Governor Romney, I’m not sure I heard how the senator would remove the 12 million people here ille-gally. You called his plan a form of amnesty. What’s yours? And how would it encourage illegals to come out of the shadows, sir?

ROMNEY: I didn’t hear that answer, either. And I’d also tell you that all of us on this stage agree — I believe, I don’t know about Ron Paul, but I think everybody else agrees — I just haven’t heard your posi-tion; I don’t mean to be critical — that we secure the border, we have the fence, and we have enough Border Patrol agents to secure the border, and that we have an employment verification system of some kind.

But the place of difference between us is what we do with the 12 million people who are here illegally. We all agree that anybody who’s committed a crime should be sent home.

But I believe that the others who’ve come here illegally should stand in line with everybody else who wants to come to this country and should not be given a special pathway or a special privilege…

(APPLAUSE)

… to be able to stay in this country. And that means that those that are here illegally today would be looked at person by person, given a specific time period by which they arrange their affairs, they stay here during that time period. When that time period is over, they go home, and they get in line with everybody else.

There are millions of people around the world who want to come here. We’ll do this in a humane and generous way, but we’re not going to say to people who’ve come here illegally, “You have a special pathway, a special privilege to become a permanent resident or a citizen.” Get in line with everybody else.

(APPLAUSE)

Full transcript

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